[JanneRäisänen]

Does anyone else experience problems with the "emergency lane keeping" on MX-30? I think this feature is more harmful than useful. I know that I can turn it off, but I have to do it every time when I start driving. First I thought it has something to do with the black asphalt on snowy road, but it just keeps doing it still while the road is not snowy.
I would guess that the idea would be to increase safety, but I think it works quite the opposite. It is dangerous while sometimes it also turns the wheel. So what I have learned, after the Emergency Lane Keeping tried to steer me to the oncoming truck, that I hold the wheel with 2 hands. And I try to remember to take it off every time I start the car.

And the tech support of Mazda is quite silent. They just say that I can turn it off.
I just would like to turn it off permanently.

 

[Thebriggie]

I believe it gets confused with snow at the side of the road, believing it to be a white line, and creates more of a problem than the safety guard it was meant to provide!

Alan

 

[Ciprotim]

Yes I would say the snow would confuse the system as I found out with poor white lines haa just a point were you speeding there and the conditions looked bad for driving haa over here nobody would go out if they could help it

 

[jceedv]

Unfortunately, your only real alternative is to turn it off - especially, if you expect road conditions similar to the pix posted. This is not really an issue with the car per se, but more due to the road(s) you're driving. Unfortunately, the system is Not intelligent enough to understand what You're seeing. All it sees are those "lanes" the snow has created.

 

[Milkfloat]

Just like the fake engine noise, permanent change to the lane keep assist is not user configurable. However, the dealer was able to permanently turn off the pseudo engine sound and I think that is entirely probable that dealers can also turn off the lane keep assist. I suggest that you ask your dealer.

 

[Fyldeman]

It's not just Mazda that have this so called safety feature fitted nor is it the only manufacturer that doesn't easily allow you to turn it off, from my experience of driving different cars in the course of my work.
The safest place to drive on an empty road is straddling the centre line, which obviously this system won't accept unless you use the indicator first which is unnecessary as no other road users around. It also does not like you taking a racing line on corners when no other vehicles around and if active could even be dangerous in my opinion.
Too much automation in my opinion actually makes the roads more unsafe. I know its not quite the same but how many drivers use the indicators without thought or proper observation of the road and surroundings meaning at times they are left on when they shouldn't be? Why do you need to indicate when in a left turn only lane or indicate when going round a bend (many people do just because satnav says turn right/left on some roads with a sharp bend)?
You should only indicate if it of benefit to another road user and to do that you need to be fully aware of who or what is around you. A good driver tries all the time to predict what other drivers will be doing and never fully believes an indicator as it could have been left on in error or being used too early.
Over automation means drivers less likely to be fully observant of the road, surroundings and conditions to the detriment of overall safety.
Sorry rant over!

 

[JanneRäisänen]

Too much automation in my opinion actually makes the roads more unsafe.

I totally agree! And I also agree that this is not only a Mazda problem. I drive quite a lot of rental cars on my work related trips. Difference is that other brands (not all) allow one to disable these features permanently.

Local dealer is useless.

 

[Chris Jansen]

Maybe this feature is one of the reasons that is has a high Euro NCAP rating, so it could be that the option to turn it off permanently would cost NCAP stars ?

 

[JanneRäisänen]

I would think that is quite the opposite. I am happy that there is a lot of NCAP stars when the Emergency Lane Keeping is trying to steer you to the oncoming truck.
It's not enough that there is a warning on users manual that this feature might have a problem.

 

[Parker77]

It's not just Mazda that have this so called safety feature fitted nor is it the only manufacturer that doesn't easily allow you to turn it off, from my experience of driving different cars in the course of my work.
The safest place to drive on an empty road is straddling the centre line, which obviously this system won't accept unless you use the indicator first which is unnecessary as no other road users around. It also does not like you taking a racing line on corners when no other vehicles around and if active could even be dangerous in my opinion.
Too much automation in my opinion actually makes the roads more unsafe. I know its not quite the same but how many drivers use the indicators without thought or proper observation of the road and surroundings meaning at times they are left on when they shouldn't be? Why do you need to indicate when in a left turn only lane or indicate when going round a bend (many people do just because satnav says turn right/left on some roads with a sharp bend)?
You should only indicate if it of benefit to another road user and to do that you need to be fully aware of who or what is around you. A good driver tries all the time to predict what other drivers will be doing and never fully believes an indicator as it could have been left on in error or being used too early.
Over automation means drivers less likely to be fully observant of the road, surroundings and conditions to the detriment of overall safety.
Sorry rant over!

That's a good rant Fyldeman . Well said. It can only be hoped that organisations such as the RAC, IAM, RoSPA, the Police Federation etc. lobby against this rapid movement towards autonomous vehicles. Harumph!

 

[JanneRäisänen]

I would think that Tesla autopilot is about 1-2 lightyears ahead of Mazda lane keeping.
Mazda seems to be "full" of old and ancient technology.

 

[jceedv]

I would think that Tesla autopilot is about 1-2 lightyears ahead of Mazda lane keeping.
Mazda seems to be "full" of old and ancient technology.

Remember though that the Tesla autopilot alone is USD$12,000.

 

[M1nty]

I completely agree, I HATE this stupid feature (UK*) and the fact that everything else can be toggled off and remain off! The only benefit of sorts I can see is that it forces you to indicate during each & every manoeuvre to keep it off! I've yet to experience the feature with snow, and that sounds astonishing that it passed any safety assessment!!

*See also having to put the seatbelt on before being able to move off!

 

[Thebriggie]

Nothing wrong with the seat belt one in my opinion. If you want to move a short distance without the seat belt locked in hold down the brake pedal and manually release the brake switch.....

Alan

 

[Andrejs M.]

Does anyone else experience problems with the "emergency lane keeping" on MX-30? I think this feature is more harmful than useful. I know that I can turn it off, but I have to do it every time when I start driving. First I thought it has something to do with the black asphalt on snowy road, but it just keeps doing it still while the road is not snowy.
I would guess that the idea would be to increase safety, but I think it works quite the opposite. It is dangerous while sometimes it also turns the wheel. So what I have learned, after the Emergency Lane Keeping tried to steer me to the oncoming truck, that I hold the wheel with 2 hands. And I try to remember to take it off every time I start the car.

And the tech support of Mazda is quite silent. They just say that I can turn it off.
I just would like to turn it off permanently.

I get this type of alarm from time to time in the same places (some magic). This line(road corners) detection algorithm is not perfect. At the same time, the steering wheel is not trying to affect my driving direction. I am just getting vibration feedback.

 

[dna.geni.aus]

Does anyone else experience problems with the "emergency lane keeping" on MX-30? I think this feature is more harmful than useful. I know that I can turn it off, but I have to do it every time when I start driving. First I thought it has something to do with the black asphalt on snowy road, but it just keeps doing it still while the road is not snowy. I would guess that the idea would be to increase safety, but I think it works quite the opposite. It is dangerous while sometimes it also turns the wheel. So what I have learned, after the Emergency Lane Keeping tried to steer me to the oncoming truck, that I hold the wheel with 2 hands. And I try to remember to take it off every time I start the car. And the tech support of Mazda is quite silent. They just say that I can turn it off. I just would like to turn it off permanently.

We have the same steering issue in a Subaru in Australia (that has never seen snow). Emergency Lane Keeping Assist is worse than a nuisance. I always drive two-handed but have arthritic shoulders and this jerking function disables ME. Again, you can only turn off to have it come back on next stop.

 

[LA_Sarachie]

bc

Just like the fake engine noise, permanent change to the lane keep assist is not user configurable. However, the dealer was able to permanently turn off the pseudo engine sound and I think that is entirely probable that dealers can also turn off the lane keep assist. I suggest that you ask your dealer.

I turned the fake engine noise off with the instructions found in this forum.