[Fredzedex]

After our slight hiccup (quite major🙈) at the beginning of our ownership, all is well now with the MX30👍
We mainly charge at home from the wall box and the car does exactly as it says on the tin, usually about 4 ish hours to charge to 100% from about 20-30%.
Last weekend, finally popped our public charging cherry on a 50kw/h osprey charger. Was a bit disappointed with the result, 15% in about 30 mins from 50% full. Tried again this morning on Instavolt, from 40% to 70% in 40 mins . I suspect neither would have matched the claimed 20-80% in 36 minutes….. Am I doing something wrong? is it a car thing or a charger thing…..?
Have to say Instavolt is a doddle to use, pull up,swipe, plug in, just how it should be. Just a bit faster please!

Cars great by the way. Really enjoying it and this new way of driving👍

fred

 

[Thebriggie]

See this regarding dc charging from 50% upwards. Interesting reading. I don't know is mazda is providing a s/w update to improve fast dc charging. Anybody else know anything?

Mazda MX-30 DC Charging Test: Peak Rate Is Not Even 40 kW

Fastned recently had the opportunity to test fast charging performances of the all-new Mazda MX-30, which was supposed to recharge from 0-80% in 40 minutes.

insideevs.com

 

[Fredzedex]

That graph pretty much represents what I’m saying. Next time I rapid charge I’ll let It get down to around 20%. See what that does………

fred

 

[seasidebaz]

Only time I've rapid charged is with Ecotricity, 20% to 92% ish in 45 minutes (which is the maximum permissible time for the charger I used)

 

[Fredzedex]

Seems as though 20% is the key, that’s what I’ll try next👍

fred

 

[Kiwal]

Its most probably not about charging curve, but coldgate. In other words, battery being too cold to absorb 1C charge.
But could be the charger itself as well....

Too Little info to give some decent answear.

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[diemvy5]

Have any others here use the Ecotricity. Charging 20% to 92% ish in 45 minutes sounds fast. I think I like it, but I need more review to actually buy it

 

[VivaMazda]

After our slight hiccup (quite major🙈) at the beginning of our ownership, all is well now with the MX30👍
We mainly charge at home from the wall box and the car does exactly as it says on the tin, usually about 4 ish hours to charge to 100% from about 20-30%.
Last weekend, finally popped our public charging cherry on a 50kw/h osprey charger. Was a bit disappointed with the result, 15% in about 30 mins from 50% full. Tried again this morning on Instavolt, from 40% to 70% in 40 mins . I suspect neither would have matched the claimed 20-80% in 36 minutes….. Am I doing something wrong? is it a car thing or a charger thing…..?
Have to say Instavolt is a doddle to use, pull up,swipe, plug in, just how it should be. Just a bit faster please!

Cars great by the way. Really enjoying it and this new way of driving👍

fred

In minus temp Celsius

After our slight hiccup (quite major🙈) at the beginning of our ownership, all is well now with the MX30👍
We mainly charge at home from the wall box and the car does exactly as it says on the tin, usually about 4 ish hours to charge to 100% from about 20-30%.
Last weekend, finally popped our public charging cherry on a 50kw/h osprey charger. Was a bit disappointed with the result, 15% in about 30 mins from 50% full. Tried again this morning on Instavolt, from 40% to 70% in 40 mins . I suspect neither would have matched the claimed 20-80% in 36 minutes….. Am I doing something wrong? is it a car thing or a charger thing…..?
Have to say Instavolt is a doddle to use, pull up,swipe, plug in, just how it should be. Just a bit faster please!

Cars great by the way. Really enjoying it and this new way of driving👍

fred

Went from 2% to 41% in 26 minutes in minus 2 degrees Celsius. So starting at lower SOC is probably a good idea. We had been driving for maybe 60 something km. Snow, wet, pretty miserable. Could be faster absolutely but returning to the car with groceries had charged more than planned. The risk of shopping w a four year old. Celsius was a Swedish dude and very cool or so they say. But sometimes a lot warmer especially during summer.

 

[VivaMazda]

PS Interestingly Boris Johnson is promoting a switch to the Kelvin scale in the UK. This might sound unbelievably impractical but the plan allegedly is that the expanding British custums and its zillions of new employees will facilitate the transition to Kelvin. These rumours have not yet been confirmed by Downing Street.

 

[Fyldeman]

PS Interestingly Boris Johnson is promoting a switch to the Kelvin scale in the UK. This might sound unbelievably impractical but the plan allegedly is that the expanding British custums and its zillions of new employees will facilitate the transition to Kelvin. These rumours have not yet been confirmed by Downing Street.

Very unlikely. Where have you seen that quoted, as absolutely nothing in the UK. Sounds like an EU rumour.

 

[Marcel21674]

I don't know what it is, but had the same issue with a 150kwh charger. it only charged with 17kw/h, it took forever.
Didn't want to wait that long, so went to the next fast charger, about 40km on the way and that one charged with 24kw/h.
On my way back had to fastcharge again.could not see how fast, but it went from 17% charge to 80% in half an hour.

 

[Milkfloat]

Just think, at zero K it would be a good news/bad news story. No resistive power losses but zero rate of charge! Does it get that cold in Swede?

 

[Thebriggie]

BJ in Downing Street is too busy partying to have time to consider changing anything other than the wine from white to red

 

[VivaMazda]

Just think, at zero K it would be a good news/bad news story. No resistive power losses but zero rate of charge! Does it get that cold in Swede?

Just think, at zero K it would be a good news/bad news story. No resistive power losses but zero rate of charge! Does it get that cold in Swede?

Weirdly all the time. At minus 272 C there is whift of spring in the air🤣.
In these rather sad times of nationalism and division, Kelvin being British, Lord Frost and all, K could be just the ticket? Nope? Meant no offence. 🙏

 

[bassek]

Apparently there is a Finnish start up company who make no-so-fast-CCS chargers:

https://www.unifiedchargers.fi/en-gb/dc-fast-charging

Their idea is to have cars with small type 2 internal chargers (like our MX30) to be able to charge with 20-30kW with reasonable investment costs. They are still a bit pricey to install home, but they apparently would work with 3x25A.

Seb, who won't interfere with the UK domestic politics...

 

[Thebriggie]

Bassek, correct me if I am wrong but this indicates a 3 phase power supply if you say 3 x 25 amp?

Alan

 

[bassek]

Bassek, correct me if I am wrong but this indicates a 3 phase power supply if you say 3 x 25 amp?

Alan

correct.

 

[Kiwal]

But the price for such DC charger is off any reasonabke house budget.
Although nice for smaller parking lots/shops.

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[bassek]

But the price for such DC charger is off any reasonabke house budget.

Yes, but the idea of substituting the Type 2 connector with the CCS connector is interesting.
Seb

 

[Kiwal]

Yes, and nicely visible in the countries which started to adapt EV a bit later. Mainy you find DC50kwh

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