[M1nty]

Hi

Question
As per the (UK) manual, when locking the car manually, 2x presses of the button on the remote or touching the car door handle twice are required in order to lock, then deadlock - each different providing a different noise.

However, when using the smartphone app or the setting to 'auto-lock when walking away', only one locking sound is heard! So are these options combining locking & deadlocking into 1x action? The manual doesn't seem to confirm for the latter!

Gripe
When using the 'auto-lock when walking away', I note that:-

1. Sometimes it doesn't work!
2. If you put something in the car on one side, close the door then walk round to the other side, the feature activates!

Cheers

Jez

 

[Thebriggie]

Jez, I always thought the deadlocking system was designed to ensure you had to actively lock it to make sure no one was locked in the car with no exit method. By asking you to double press or double touch it ensures it is a deliberate action. You do not want it to happen by accident if you just walk away with the key in your pocket or by remote locking without ensuring the car is empty.

As for
1. yip happens to me sometimes but I can live with it. Did on my previous Renault's and Mazda's so.....
2. Have you tried changing the autolock timing in setting. It does it with me occasionally when the key is in the same pocket as my phone so I wonder if that weakens the signal as you walk round the car hence the locking.

Alan

 

[M1nty]

Hi Alan, that's not my understanding at all! Locking once locks the doors and locking twice (optional) deadlocks the doors so some wazzock breaking your window can't then open your door from the inside. It would seem rather stupid if the deadlocking wasn't automatically performed wouldn't it?

I'm not sure the auto-lock timing itself can be altered but good call and I'll check. I suspect all that can be altered is the autolocking timing of the doors after you drive away, which I'm sure I upped to 60 seconds.

As a Software Tester it drives me bananas that essentially perfectly good cars have such irritating feature design, almost as if no-one actually bothers to go through any real world scenarios prior to release!

 

[Thebriggie]

Nope...locking an animal in for example should not be on deadlock in case someone needs to break into the car to get it out. Same for leaving a sleeping person for a few minutes. It is an intentional design decision and whether we like it or not that's seems to be the logic behind it. I have no problem with it being that way. It's a horses for courses thing, some don't mind, some do, hey ho

Alan

 

[M1nty]

Well the manual should clarify that then, as should the smartphone app. Technical Authors are another bone of contention.

 

[Thebriggie]

Jez, the handbook is long enough and it is hard to find the stuff you want...I hate to think the size it would be if we went down every nook and cranny....and yes technical authors have a habit of telling you positive actions and saying very little or nowt about default actions 🤯

Even in my previous jobs if you asked someone why we did/do it that way they could not refer to an historical reason or logic behind it hence, as you are doing, asking the question!

I wish an online handbook had a search facility and an addendum where they could add more info based on user feedback but feedback doesn't seem to be a Mazda desire

Alan

 

[seasidebaz]

As a Software Tester it drives me bananas that essentially perfectly good cars have such irritating feature design, almost as if no-one actually bothers to go through any real world scenarios prior to release!

As a software engineer it drives ME bananas that perfectly good cars have their software written in JavaScript, probably the worst of all languages (except Python) especially when it comes to critical systems

 

[M1nty]

I'm not sure the auto-lock timing itself can be altered but good call and I'll check. I suspect all that can be altered is the autolocking timing of the doors after you drive away, which I'm sure I upped to 60 seconds.

And I was right. I have noticed though that if I walk round the back of the car instead of the front, it doesn't seem to lock (in the time taken to move between each front door)!

 

[Thebriggie]

From mazda connect user manual

Automatic Re-Lock Wait Time
Sets the time for the doors to re-lock if a door is not opened.
30 seconds,
60 seconds,
90 seconds
Keyless Walk Away Auto-Lock
Enables the vehicle to automatically lock when the driver
walks away.
Enable,
Disable

Jez, not sure if auto re-lock (which is separate from door lock when driving) relates to keyless walk away timing. That's the timing setting I was hoping would work.

And yep your right about walking round the front as the sensors are on both front doors and the rear of the vehicle so going round the front would take you out of sensor range.

Alan

 

[M1nty]

Jez, not sure if auto re-lock (which is separate from door lock when driving) relates to keyless walk away timing. That's the timing setting I was hoping would work.

Yep, I understood you cheers Alan and the 2 features appear to be nowt to do with each other by my testing.

 

[Thebriggie]

So it would seem that keyless walk away is not adjustable and makes it's own mind up when to lock...or not🔒🕒😠

Alan