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I've had this mx-30 now from new for nearly 4 months, and have covered 8k+ and counting. One thought has crossed my mind, regarding the charging range, and how much it can differ after charging. I typically drive the same distance (100miles) everyday, often using the same route. Occasionally after a charge, it says I have a 136 mile range :confused:, but mostly around the 118 mile range. After a week or so, it suddenly goes down to 104, for a few days, then back up to 114. I drive pretty much the same everyday, no speeding or fast acceleration, and constantly use the paddles. I know that this range can fluctuate, because of various conditions, but is what I'm seeing normal?

For the first month of ownership, I had no alternative, but to use a CCS fast charger, due to the time it took to have a home 7kwh charger installed. At the start of using the home charger the range rose to around the 126 mark for a few days, but now it seems to stay around the 104 mark. The weather by the way has been unseasonably warm for the last couple of weeks, so I would have thought the weather would have at least been a little kinder to the range.
 

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As someone else stated on this forum range can be a tricky concept. You are driving the same terrain with as near as possible the same driving style but simple thing like higher wind resistance, temp variables, weight of the car and tyre pressure to name just four can affect range, and the mileage per % charge is calculated using your driving history based on all these factors and more. I guess you are concerned about battery damage using fast chargers and regular 100% charges causing the range drop. In my limited knowledge I would say no to that. Too early in battery life cycle. I think a bit of suck it and see is required going forward but someone on the forum might supply more detailed info that helps.
 

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Having had our first frost last night, and charging it up this morning, its gone from 106 after the previous charge, to 128 this morning :rolleyes: There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason on why it changes so often. Yes I can appreciate the small variables' such as weight, tyre pressures etc, but even allowing for those, these figures are just...

Its a lovely car, but this range limitation is becoming the biggest issue. When they bring out the next version with hopefully a larger battery, doesn't have to be massive, I'll be first in the queue.
 

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I have the same problem but my range is much lower. I thought it was due to lots of motorway and fast chargers over a long weekend, but it’s been 6 weeks since that and I can’t get 100 miles on a full charge! I generally charge to 90% over night, some days I have 88 miles, some days 82. It used to always be roughly ten more miles range the battery percent, but now my battery is always higher than mile range!
 

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I conditions around +5C I have a 190+km range (118miles) this week in almost -20C it was down to 130km (81miles). I use scheduled charging with 3.7kW nighttime up to 100%, however in low temps it does not charge always up to full 100% (the schedule stops 7am).
 

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Temperature is everything. The motoring media carps on endlessly about range but skips over the drastic effect of temperature on battery performance. Add to that, heating, headlights, wipers etc. and the differential to summer is huge. Range achievable is about driving type and driving style so we all get a slightly different outcome. Those of us who typically achieved 4.3 miles/kWh in summer find 3.4 miles/kWh a stretch in winter. One can choose non-highway driving over highways and go even easier with the accelerator (make use of the friction brakes a punishable offence ) but those high efficiency trips are over until next spring.
 

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I am at the stage now of accepting it is what it is and have stopped fretting over how much range I got after any charge. % interests me more to ensure the public chargers do as they say. Its the mx30 and we bought it knowing the max range and hopefully the foibles of cold weather, terrain, heavy feet etc etc. So I am now chilled about it and just getting on with it.

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The thing is its so predictable and reliable. Sorry for banging on about i but it makes a huge difference in real life. Because it is the perfect antidote to range anxiety. Range aside its surprisingly accomplished in winter. Heating without burning stuff in car parks etc. Charge it more often and it will make a great and most importantly very safe companion in wintery conditions.
 

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I’m in agreement with Thebriggie don’t worry about it. I understand where your coming from but as was mentioned we knew range was low compared with other vehicles. I had a Kia Niro before I bought my Mazda the range or should I say mileage was 58 mpg in summer which dropped to 45mpg in winter. I also looked at the KIA se 6. Nice car with huge range but! also a huge cost. My costs would have been 12k more for the Kia so, I’m retired, don’t have people in the back or very very occasionally & also do very low mileage. Given my age this is probably the last car I will buy & the way technology is going it wouldn’t surprise me if Mazda will have, I suppose all will have smaller battery’s with better range so who knows in few years time a battery upgrade could be on the cards at a reasonable cost. Not sure if Mazda will go for range extender, car would then be classified as hybrid surely. Personally I would have thought they would think more towards better battery, just my opinion. Think about it beautiful car but known fact low range, but very affordable compared to others, people or should I say most or a lot more buyers with a bigger battery. Even with a range extender costs go up, repairs, servicing, etc. What are other peoples thoughts on this subject?
 

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Paul this is a complex issue obviously.
Energy density in batteries needs to go up. And it does👍
The elephant in the room is the CO2 impact of huge and heavy batteries. Money matters but maybe eco impact is even more important. BMW iX e g is probably a sweet ride and all with air suspension and you name it. Green? For many users 99% of the time that mega battery pack will be materials and CO2 wasted and if you want to be mean a penile enlargement instrument more than anything. Too mean?
 

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Mazda will go for range extenders if they want to sell in more USA states...simple. As for Europe..if they make them and ship them there will be a market I am sure. Just not for me.

For myself if I still wanted all the hassle of petrol, oil, exhausts etc. I would have gone down that route. I wanted pure ev without any later involvement with fossil fuels...if possible. Range suits 99% of my lifestyle, so why not stick with what I have for the sake of the 1%.

As for penis enlargement I am sure there is another forum for that but I dare not put it in my search engine

Horses for courses I suppose...for the ev that is not the......

Alan 🎅


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