[Marcel21674]

Found out this morning, that when the battery gets below a certain point, the mx30 goes to turtle mode.
It limits the acceleration / power..
I wonder if it's possible to put the engine in turtle mode manually. It could get you some extra range.

 

[kopaszkrapek]

Found out this morning, that when the battery gets below a certain point, the mx30 goes to turtle mode.
It limits the acceleration / power..
I wonder if it's possible to put the engine in turtle mode manually. It could get you some extra range.

Easy, just put an egg under your right foot

 

[JohnG123]

Thought it was a tortoise ……

 

[Charlie]

Thought it was a tortoise ……

ha yes, I was thinking that too.

 

[h5n1xp]

Set max regen, and don't drive faster than thirty (you set the limiter if you like).

 

[Marcel21674]

I know there are other ways, but that's not the question. When the car's control unit can activate a turtle mode why not yourself.
It isn't something special, tesla has this in all it's models.

 

[h5n1xp]

I know there are other ways, but that's not the question. When the car's control unit can activate a turtle mode why not yourself.
It isn't something special, tesla has this in all it's models.

It has become clear that Mazda follow a model similar to Apple, in as much as they tend to provide you with control over features of their products which they feel won't compromise the "Mazda Experience". Such approach has both advantages and disadvantages, while it might frustrate some users, I expect the general case is better served this way.

 

[birillo_79]

well this is an emergency mode when battery is close to 0% to allow you to drive to the next charging point (well if you are lucky). I do not see the point in using it on normal drive to be honest. You can emulate it as other said. It is similar to the "emergency mode" some ICE car have when something is wrong. You really do not want that do you?

 

[Marcel21674]

well this is an emergency mode when battery is close to 0% to allow you to drive to the next charging point (well if you are lucky). I do not see the point in using it on normal drive to be honest. You can emulate it as other said. It is similar to the "emergency mode" some ICE car have when something is wrong. You really do not want that do you?

Turtle mode, only decreases acceleration, meaning limiting the current draw from the battery. The cars control unit can do that much better that your right foot.
I don't ask for your opinion if it's usefull, i just ask if it's possible to activate it manally. For exame, like the fake engine sound.

 

[birillo_79]

I have not experienced it on the mx30 - but on the KIA EV6 for sure limits top speed at 30km/h and kills acceleration. It is a ICE engine recovery mode equivalent. And despite my opinion the answer is NO - cannot be activated.

 

[Thebriggie]

To be fair the picture in the mx30 handbook is more turtle than tortoise! Despite my searches it does not seem to be user configurable as birillo_79 states or not at least at the owner level. Obviously a conscious design decision by Mazda based on their research and/or reasoning. If the demand is there it could be a future upgrade but somehow I don't see it anywhere near the top of the pile. The function discussed is activated as shown below.

Output Restriction Warning
Indication/Warning Light
“Acceleration Limited” displays/turns
on
The indication/light displays/turns on
under the following conditions. The
vehicle speed may not increase even if
the accelerator pedal is depressed
because the motor output is restricted.
x EV system is protected from
overheating
x High voltage battery level is low
x High voltage battery temperature is
low
“Acceleration Limited” displays/
flashing
If the vehicle continues to be driven
with the output restriction warning
indication/warning light turned on,
the output restriction warning light
flashes.
The vehicle speed may not increase
even if the accelerator pedal is
depressed because the motor output is
further restricted compared to the
condition in which the output
restriction warning light turns on.

Alan

 

[VivaMazda]

Have not noticed anything really dramatic in turtle mode. But when it appears you tend to drive defensively anyways. Or you need to be on a highway to be able to tell the difference? Or just the most boring driver in the world?
There is such a thing as active safety. To activate turle mode without cause arguably would compromise safety IMHO. The popular but Euro NCAP safetywise catastrophic Dacia Spring springs(!) to mind. Performance so poor it sounds as a menace on any highway. Cannot in any way, shape or form keep up with traffic. That cannot be safe.

 

[Marcel21674]

Have not noticed anything really dramatic in turtle mode. But when it appears you tend to drive defensively anyways. Or you need to be on a highway to be able to tell the difference? Or just the most boring driver in the world?
There is such a thing as active safety. To activate turle mode without cause arguably would compromise safety IMHO. The popular but Euro NCAP safetywise catastrophic Dacia Spring springs(!) to mind. Performance so poor it sounds as a menace on any highway. Cannot in any way, shape or form keep up with traffic. That cannot be safe.

But that's the point. The acceleration in turtle mode is not so bad, that it becomes dangerous.
My thinking was simple. You have a relative small range. When you have a longer roadtrip, using turtle mode could help you to reach the maximun range, because the engine contol unit is better at managing the power output, then your right foot.
You don't need it on thr highway, but your using the most power when pulling up. Then it could be usefull.
But apperently i'm the only one who sees potential benefit from this.

 

[Marcel21674]

Double post

 

[VivaMazda]

But that's the point. The acceleration in turtle mode is not so bad, that it becomes dangerous.
My thinking was simple. You have a relative small range. When you have a longer roadtrip, using turtle mode could help you to reach the maximun range, because the engine contol unit is better at managing the power output, then your right foot.
You don't need it on thr highway, but your using the most power when pulling up. Then it could be usefull.
But apperently i'm the only one who sees potential benefit from this.

Marcel sure I get what you re saying maybe a kind of Eco mode could be useful. Or maximum range mode. It boils down to pretty much the same thing I guess???
We have an eco mode for the climate control but sadly that sucks🤣

 

[Thebriggie]

I do get the idea but it would also need to be able to react to variable speed limits. Surrounding me is 20 mph stretches, 30 mph, 40 mph and 70 mph. That would add further complexity but I do understand the logic of the control module providing maximum range for minimum power draw. Kind of autopilot with manual intervention function for safety reasons...which is cruise control.... So perhaps as you state a big ECO button that you can press at the appropriate speed but can be overriden by braking or acceleration which leads me back to cruise control So simplify cruise control by providing a simple Eco button might be a solution. My brain has exploded🤯

Have other manufacturers provided this function and if so with what safety overides? They must have some in my opinion.

So I do get the basic premise but a lot more thought would need to go into it before it could become reality in my view. In Scotland a taxi driver was recently fined for driving too slowly on a motorway in non emergency circumstances!!! You can't win

Alan

 

[VivaMazda]

Alan that makes perfect sense I think
Danger lies in the speed difference between vehicles
Ergo going a lot slower than everyone else, Dacia Spring etc etc, could be just as dangerous as going a lot faster on the highway. So the Scots got it right methinks👍